Never Become, Just BE

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Never Become, Just BE

Never Become, Just BE

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  1. dalvirgill says:

    Dalvir Gill
    June 5, 2010
    Never become, just be.
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    Manjot Josan, Matina Garbotz and 2 others like this.
    Mintoo Mand · Friends with Rajesh Joshi and 28 others
    absolutely.
    June 5, 2010 at 12:44pm · Like
    Swaran Singh · 123 mutual friends
    As if that is easy!
    June 5, 2010 at 1:36pm · Like
    Dalvir Gill The easiest and most natural thing, Swaran Singh Ji. To become s’tin/someone ( even just a parrot reciting or a carbon copy of some Ideal) effort is needed, ego likes it, ego likes challenge, it’s never satisfied w/ the ‘Sahaj’. ‘To BE’ is a state of ‘No-Mind’, it’s death to ego.
    June 5, 2010 at 2:21pm · Like
    Matina Garbotz to BE is enjoying the moment…
    June 5, 2010 at 4:26pm · Like
    Rosie Mann to BE….yes enjoying the moment….or just BEING here and now…
    June 5, 2010 at 4:30pm · Like
    Shumita Didi Sandhu the hardest and the easiest..
    June 5, 2010 at 5:41pm · Like
    Dalvir Gill Shumita Ji! I was just speaking in relative terms, otherwise u r right, it’s both or none. Buddhahood is what we are born with, our natural self. A child is not born with any Mind, at first society works really hard to provide him with one and then one toils to strengthen it, then it becomes an autocrat and rules every aspect of one’s personality, taking that person away for one’s Self. As a result the person becomes so many things,but, can never be. Bliss is not a blessing coming from above, that’s our natural-self. Just BE!!
    June 5, 2010 at 5:53pm · Like
    Matina Garbotz a child is born with some mind – or longing to be here and to accomplish something on this plane – when very young though, they are still timeless in their being – yes in their BEing – they remember all time,these little flowerBEings open up their petals to embrace and expeience the here and now – and with awe they see what is – and thent hey feel the needs of their bodies.they feel joy when the body’s needs are met.they feel pain,when those needs are not met.they have a knowing of what they came here to do – and where they came from……in many it goes,the memory….what was it,….i need this now to make it feel better,to get to what i have to do faster – where is the help and support…what was it?i need to survive,i need a family,i need…..it’s gone.what was it?
    yes,it can be society,it can be family,it can be the lazy self,overrun by ego – that makes the wise child forget…..it really is only up to that blessed child within all of us to be heard,to remember…and it is for us to BE,just be in the wise moment of timelesness – no thought
    June 5, 2010 at 10:48pm · Like
    Rose J Kaur “To be” is a state of” no mind” .And believe it this is d most difficult thing to do.If you Win ur Ego —u become one with GOD —-no problem is left behind…It is only the ego which disturbs a man and gives birth to all the malices.
    June 5, 2010 at 11:13pm · Like
    Dalvir Gill @Matina ( I M not saying this because of ur Euorpean Background, even in India they r not talking about Indian Psychology either) Eastern Psychology looks/have been looking things at not only in a different way but deep down they are polar opposite to each other. Western Psychology is not only pathological in its nature, but it restricts its scope to the Mind,whereas Mind is just a beginning point for older Eastern
    and the real scope lies in the uber-mind ( beyond mind). Any Buddha, like any child doesn’t have any mind { A bodhisattav (someone on the threshold of Buddhahood) has a mind but it’s silent now.)} There’s no such thing as clear mind, purified mind. Mind is the reason of all the negativity. Instincts of a child can’t be called mind, animals show all those instincts,but they never develop any mind as human kids do, even though, animals do have societies, and better than human society in some ways, if not in all the ways.
    June 5, 2010 at 11:20pm · Like
    Dalvir Gill @Dineash, U know perfectly well what r u saying & why r u saying it.
    June 5, 2010 at 11:21pm · Like
    Matina Garbotz for me the mind is in and outside of the whole being.mind is the state of being and also doing .mind fullness indicates the being is full of mind – awareness – self aware?
    June 5, 2010 at 11:28pm · Like
    Dalvir Gill @Jatinder Ji, like already mentioned easy/ hard are just relative terms. What’s hard for one is a snap for the other. Gurbani doesn’t consider this hard, babas of today preach so, Bullah says, it’s easy. Kabir laughs at it. I agree, in the beginning, effort is needed. Mind’s just Ego, upside down,as u said. U don’t need to kill ur ego ( otherwise Gurubaba could never have said ego to be the cure along w/ deadliest of the chronic diseases ਹਉਮੈ ਦੀਰਘ ਰੋਗੁ ਹੈ ਦਾਰੂ ਭੀ ਇਸੁ ਮਾਹਿ ॥)
    June 5, 2010 at 11:45pm · Like
    Dalvir Gill @Dinesh ONLY ( please don’t mind me 4 asking a little privacy), Yeah, now u said s’tin I’ve no Idea about, but I know the answer to this one, and it goes s’tin like this,”
    ai aaha, ai ooho,
    ai aaha – eehi – oohu – ehe – aaha
    ai aaha – eehi – oohu – ehe – aaha
    oh balle, oh balle, oh balle – balle-balle balle……..lalalalalalala
    June 5, 2010 at 11:54pm · Like
    Dalvir Gill @Matina, I M not saying that u r not entitled to have ur interpretation of mind or its workings. It may be interesting for u to know that Mind ( called Mn, in sanskrit; and they called peace as Amn. ‘A’ sound as a prefix negates the meaning of the word ). By its very structure the sound Mn ( Mind) is the very anti-thesis of Peace, that was my reason for saying there is no such thing as ‘clear mind’ or ‘pure mind’.Buddha-hood (or whatever-hood u wanna call, Like Jatinder Ji liked the phrase ‘one with GOD’) is only possible after u have gone beyond. Once there it’s not that u do right/good things, but, Whatever is done through u can’t go wrong.
    Jatinder Ji put it one simple way,” ‘To be’ is a state of NO-MIND” ( and not of Mind )
    June 6, 2010 at 12:12am · Like
    Matina Garbotz the sanskrit word Mn explains the word “mind”to me – so far it had been an english word for me whose meaning evaded me – i take english too literally or may interpret this language somewhat differently.does this mean,that the word “amen”said after chrisian prayes can be the door to “no mind” – peace?used as a mantra?is the word “aum”energetically similar?
    June 6, 2010 at 4:29am · Like
    Dalvir Gill I believe Amen is a Latin word meaning ‘So Be It’, also used by Arabic and Persian Traditions.( I M not language-expert, even though I love them. ‘aum’ is not word, just a sound without meaning/s, as Eastern traditions don’t try to explain God/Heaven, they study mind and deal w/ ‘Now’, whereas for other Religious traditions the most important event is yet to happen in future.
    I was actually coining a defination for mn(mind).
    Amn (amun) = Peace
    Mn = No-peace ( as in Sanskrit, just like English, the prefix ‘a’ usually means ‘non’.)
    June 6, 2010 at 1:14pm · Like
    Matina Garbotz i heard Sanskrit is one of the oldest languages and is the basis of many younger ones.” Amen” is Latin,yes – is this word originating from Sanskrit as well?does that indicate that to be at peace(amn) is simply a state of no doubt -“so be it”…”it is so” – the other question arising for me is the quality of “Sound” itself.Sound has vibrations and can create and destroy on this plane and on deeper levels as well.
    words are made out of sounds. pronounciation of a word seems to become meaningful and the tone (soundquality) of the voice ,in order to transmit its true meaning and vibration.(?)
    June 6, 2010 at 7:12pm · Like
    Dalvir Gill No, the word ‘amen’ doesn’t have its roots in Sanskrit, but the sound is very close to ‘aum’ ( ॐ ). It is interesting to note that this letter (?) doesn’t appear in Sanskrit text, as a letter. Polarities exist, there can be no shadow w/o light.(It is not for back in the history of Astro-physics that they had to drum out a hypothesis of anti-matter, but, if there’s a matter then there gotta be the other pole= anti-matter) Sounds are eternal,words r man-made, we associated the meanings w/ ’em. U R absolutely right, in a sense words r meaningless, but sounds r what can lead us to soundfulness to soundlessness.
    I cant make up my mind where to go from here, I think in my next post, I will like to explore more about sounds rather than languages ( of what I know nothing about). And u r right again Sanskrit is in a way ‘mother’ to more languages than she is credited for, as she works on sounds.
    June 6, 2010 at 9:11pm · Like
    Dalvir Gill ( Continuing w/ Matina ) There r only 1708 root sounds in Sanskrit and all the words r made out of them. e.g. root sound ‘m’ has given us a word ‘Maya’ ( usually translated as ‘illusion’, and of course meaning more than that) Matter, Measure in English r derived from it & u’ll find so many parallel words in all the European languages. Almost 60 % of German, 75% Russian words have their roots in Sanskrit. How much of Old Latin owes to Older Sanskrit is not known.
    I’ve made my mind ( talking about No-mind, haha), We will talk about SOUNDS in my next post. Shall we ?
    June 6, 2010 at 9:23pm · Like
    Matina Garbotz we shall – it is all very exciting.SOUNDS…we can get from there into the
    shape and colours of sounds………………….
    June 6, 2010 at 11:08pm · Like
    Matina Garbotz yes,i noticed that…silly,but in the shower i make sounds…the ones that
    make me feel good.the shower/church,ok….”amen “and “aum “are two sounds
    that i know from those moments of feeling the energy of sound – they are of
    the same root,energy
    June 6, 2010 at 11:13pm · Like

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